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Sep 22, 2021

There’s something magical about the magic of home, and Sarah Hollowell wrote a whole book about it. We talk about spending time in the elementary school forest, being raised nerdy, and writing books for your high school self. 


Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about or mentions of gore, abuse, child endangerment, queerphobia, mental illness, racism, fatphobia, bugs, and anger issues. 



Sarah Hollowell is a queer fat Hoosier writer aiming to up the magic quotient of Indiana.She graduated from Ball State University with a degree in creative writing, and she remains there to this day. Sarah’s debut YA contemporary fantasy novel, A Dark and Starless Forest, is available now. Her work has also appeared on The NoSleep Podcast, Huffington Post, and Fireside Magazine, among others.



- Recommendation: This week, Amanda recommends the new season of Survivor. 

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Spirits was created by Julia Schifini, Amanda McLoughlin and Eric Schneider. We are founding members of Multitude, an independent podcast collective and production studio. Our music is "Danger Storm" by Kevin MacLeod (, licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0.