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Aug 25, 2021

We’re joined by author and professor Veronica Schanoes, who leads us through a forest of  the feminism of Alice in Wonderland, taking moralizing out of the fairy tales, and tackling forgiveness. 


Stories Based on Jewish Folklore and Magic, on Electric Literature. 


Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about or mentions of bodily harm, antisemitism, gun violence, murder, arrest/imprisonment, depression, implied pedophilia, emotional manipulation, torture, racism, slavery, child endangerment, kidnapping, dismemberment, and religious persecution. 



Veronica Schanoes is an American author of fantasy stories and an associate professor in the department of English at Queens College, CUNY. Her novella Burning Girls was nominated for the Nebula Award and the World Fantasy Award and won the Shirley Jackson Award for Best Novella in 2013. She lives in New York City. Burning Girls and Other Stories is her debut collection.



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