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Oct 28, 2020

Only on Spirits do we get really into the logistics and philosophy of a Disney Channel Original Movie. We’re talking Halloweentown, and stress that there’s no such thing as witch DNA, and magic should go back to being more democratic.  


Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about or mentions of elitism, biological essentialism, religious persecution, societal inequity, and witch trials.  


When Did Magic Become Elitist?

Hereditary Witchcraft

Are You Descended from Witches?


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Spirits was created by Julia Schifini, Amanda McLoughlin and Eric Schneider. We are founding members of Multitude, an independent podcast collective and production studio. Our music is "Danger Storm" by Kevin MacLeod (, licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0.